The liner fits well for about 10 minutes and is then blown out and it's basically wearing 2 shorts. I've got low hanging balls so it's nice to have a more "whitey tighty" kind of underwear. These start off as regular boxer briefs and quickly turn to boxers.

If I sized down the shorts would basically be spandex and I'd have no point in a liner.

They are comfortable for lounging around and I do love that they don't have any plastic.

I'd only buy more if they offered an updated liner, maybe something like soffees(ranger panties), but still wool.

These are the softest workout shorts I've ever worn, even after a couple washes. They have a nice stretch but remain sturdy. Definitely recommend.

I recently purchased two pair of the Ryker Apex shorts and after wearing them a few days threw out all of my old latex gym shorts. These fit great, super comfortable and just feels better to be wearing materials that I know are better for me. I will be ordering more in the future!

I was a ruck short guy, but these qre now my favorite. The only issue is they are not quick drying like technical fabrics but a small tradeoff for the larger picture.

Super comfortable and functional. Great quality.